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Post by casablanca on Jun 17, 2010 18:36:33 GMT
Sue had a good buy.
Martin why don't you change your user name to something more interesting? How about 'The Moo'??
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Post by Meat Pie ... on Jun 18, 2010 9:56:34 GMT
A Moth not pointing as high as a National 12 !........
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Post by LSSC on Jun 18, 2010 15:47:04 GMT
A Moth not pointing as high as a National 12 !........ Should they? I hope not. On our puddle that is the big advantage of the 12..... saves us loads of time not having to do extra tacks!
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Post by Pie-eyed on Jun 18, 2010 16:46:45 GMT
Maybe your lucky number could be found in Jeremy's telephone number...
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Post by casablanca on Jun 20, 2010 16:36:44 GMT
Had a great race in Gromit today, all the slow boats did well, the 2 Lightnings & I finished almost a lap ahead of the faster boats!! & I did out point the N12 for a while!!
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Post by Meat Pie ... on Jun 21, 2010 8:19:01 GMT
Glad that "Gromit" went well Elaine...certainly Ben Gribble was goind really well at Fowey on the 2nd day after some go faster tweaks. As for the pointing abilities of B.M,s v N12,s I for one will not get drawn into a long debate of will they or won,t they but with a Moth you can really "screw"them up into the breeze in very light conditions when a National may slow a little.National can point very high if well sailed but should lose out to a Moth in light airs on restricted waters if a lot of tacking is required..we tack so much quicker and should accelerate more cleanly. Lots of things to do to try and make a Moth point high...start with good foils,a good readable sail and tell-tails[Sometimes the Mylar,Laminate sails are a bit on the stiffish side]and above all else gentle movements in the boat,to the rudder and sail adjustment.Rool tack gently and you should be in contention.
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Post by LSSC on Jun 21, 2010 15:03:08 GMT
As for the pointing abilities of B.M,s v N12,s I for one will not get drawn into a long debate of will they or won,t they but with a Moth you can really "screw"them up into the breeze in very light conditions when a National may slow a little.National can point very high if well sailed but should lose out to a Moth in light airs on restricted waters if a lot of tacking is required..we tack so much quicker and should accelerate more cleanly. As far as 12's go I think it is very much design dependant. Some of 70's designs eg Pipedream and Cheshire Cat to name but two can absolutely fly and outpoint most things on restricted waters when its light and shifty. They tack well too. The later doublebottomed boats are more optimised for open flat water but there are one or two exceptions. Unfortunately my double bottomed Feeling Foolish isn't one of them but the self draining ability more than compensates when you fluff a roll tack. So when the water is mirror like I have to accept its design limitations as Elaine and latterly Pete sail away into the distance. As soon as the breeze fills in a little the playing field levels and probably starts to tip the other way..... But enough about N12s! How did Sue get on when she launched her Moth for the first time in the afternoon!
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Post by casablanca on Jun 21, 2010 17:49:33 GMT
Didn't watch Sue for long, the hull on 849 is very tidy but the rig needs sorting it seems to have 2 outhauls?? and 2 kicking straps conected to each other?? also centre main is only 3:1 which could be difficult for Sue as she's so tiny. The sail is very tired too.
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Post by oldgreyfox on Jun 22, 2010 0:25:46 GMT
BM849. The kicker arrangement is a two way system. Firstly you pull on the "primary" kicker which is the rough looking rope with the "Topper type" jam cleat, then having pulled that on you pull on the main tensioning system. Suggest you replace this with same system as my old boat 850. The two outhauls are not!! One control is the outhaul, the other is a reefing line,suggest you remove that completely. I have obtained the measurement certificate for 859 from the last owner, please let me have address so that I can forward to new owner. OGF ( 01603 714840)
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Post by LSSC on Jun 24, 2010 7:29:51 GMT
Last race of the series last night. Another convincing win by Pete to take the first Wednesday Evening series. (subject to ratification by Phil of course!) Quite a good celebration in the bar afterwards courtesy of Pete. Cheers Pete and very well done Sue raced her Moth last night. With her very light weight she has the potential to go well when its not windy. I too reckon she could do with another pulley on the bottom of that mainsheet, but I do think that dagger rudder arrangement looks a nice bit of kit.
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Post by casablanca on Jun 24, 2010 7:33:45 GMT
Well done to Pete .
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Post by casablanca on Jul 4, 2010 20:04:51 GMT
I decided that discretion was the better part of valour today & helped Duncan as duty crew but Pete had a blast in 'Whynot', he finished in the middle of a small fleet but coped well with lethal squalls & swirling winds.
I'm hoping to sail on Wednesday & have a first head to head with Pete.
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Post by the black pig on Jul 7, 2010 22:23:50 GMT
another good day for moths ! pete was first. elaine was second.
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Post by casablanca on Jul 8, 2010 7:35:18 GMT
I was 2nd on the water but retired after the race.
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Post by the black pig on Jul 12, 2010 11:34:41 GMT
only one moth out this weekend.
elaine was sailing really well on sunday, and would have won by a country mile, if she had not decided to have a swim 10 mins before the end! she recovered to finish 2nd to a supernova.
even after the swim, she still finished half a lap ahead the boat in third, (me) and a whole lap ahead of the lasers.
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