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Post by pegasus on Feb 28, 2010 14:47:36 GMT
Poor old Bertie suffered alot of danmage today in hairy conditoions at Maidenhead SC. The old girl decided to bury her nose into a wave and capsize. She now has a bent mast, broken spreader and worst of all a hole in the foredeck. www.flickr.com/photos/53485440@N00/4394339407/Help!! Does anyone know someone who can repair this?
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Post by joneurope on Feb 28, 2010 21:14:06 GMT
OOOOOOOOOOO. Questions to be asked: 1) are you insured-if so, who with 2) There are many good boat builders who would sort her out, but would the insurance company (or you) pay out a couple/few hundred pounds to get her fixed? I can see from the pics that youve put so much time and effort into her-I can empathise with you totally, I have put too much time and money into 601 and would judt die if she got damaged. I would try to sort via your insurer but if that fails, and you dont want to spend too much money, there are a few verry good amature boat builders who may be able to help you. All the best-Jon
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Post by Meat Pie ... on Mar 2, 2010 14:17:51 GMT
Sorry to hear that "Bertie" has been damaged.....and that nice SSS Mast is now bent too... From the Pics a repair to the crack may be a possible[may be able to disguise the crack with a washboard ?]and a possible addition of a couple of hatches where the hole is ?. Thats the cheap option. Otherwise its a new deck obviously. The Mast may be able to be straightened. As you seem to have hit a wave in a reasonable blow suspect the Mast bent too much and jumped out of the mast step and thro the deck.The spreader may have parted first causing the mast to bend excessively and jump out.What a pity especially after all the hard work lats year to get her into shape.
Suggestions Re-decking....I know most are busy this time of the year but try calling Godfrey Clark. Mast .....Try bending it on Tressles....you need to be quite brutal but some can be re-vived !If it can,t be straightened try advertising for a Needlespar Mast ,if bendy masts are your thing.Should not be difficult to get hold of one. Keep us posted and let us know how you get on...
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Post by Pie-eyed on Mar 2, 2010 16:31:33 GMT
If your insurance is "new for old" you get to choose a nice new mast any stiffness you like and they will have a list of preferred repairer who can replace the deck and get you back on the water in no time
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Post by pegasus on Mar 2, 2010 21:39:24 GMT
The insurance company looks as if they want to condemn Bertie to the great lake in the sky. They have seen the photos of her and have deemed 708 a "Construtive Total Loss". I am hoping a local boat builder will be able to do something with the deck, if not it seems I will have see if I can lay my hands on some Marine Ply and have a go myself. As for the mast I have emailed photos to Superspars and hopefully they may be able to advice about straightening it. I don't intend to let go easily, all I know is that my planned summer sailing including a few local opens has gone down the pan. Such a pity as I was showing that British Moths can lead the way as far as our club winter series goes with just three races to go! I may have Old for new policy but if the cost of new is greater than the total loss then they are not going to pay out. Just wait and see Simon
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Post by Overoptimistix on Mar 3, 2010 12:42:18 GMT
Sorry to see the damage. Re-decking is pretty straightforward. You will probably want 4 mm marine ply which I found surprisingly difficult to get hold of and you will probably need to buy a complete 8'x4' sheet. In the end I got some as a special order from Champion timber merchants - I don't know how far out they deliver - for about £25.
I expect that one sheet will redo your entire foredeck. If you only want to patch it then try to scrounge some - I may have some, but I need to see how much I have left when I finish my decks.
Phone a few local timber merchants be prepared for silly questions like "are you sure you need marine ply?"
dan
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Post by rupert on Mar 4, 2010 20:54:42 GMT
For some reason, I can't see the photos. I've redecked a few moths over the years, and though I'm not in a position to do the job, would be happy to offer advice and (hopefully) solutions to any queries you may have, if you should so want. They are one of the simplest boat to work on, as everything is on such a small scale. First thing is, marine ply, supposedly, has to have a very limited number of voids in the middle ply (so when you cut it, you don't just find air inside), is make using waterproof glue (same as WBP ply - the difference is in the voids) and should have one good face. The "Marine ply" you can pick up at a builders merchant will be cheap, but will have a very thin surface veneer, and voids. And may not be glued together very well. I have used very cheap ply sucessfully on very cheap boats, but if you want Bertie to last a long time and look good, go to somewhere like Robbins Timber and buy proper marine ply. Elite is pretty light, but quite soft. With a tub of epoxy to go with it, and lots of clamps (think of the max you might need and double it) you'll be all set to do a redeck. Probebly easier than mending a hole.
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Post by godfrey on Mar 5, 2010 11:30:24 GMT
If you want an off-cut to do a cheapo patch repair to get sailing again, I can bring some to Sailboat this weekend. I have some old Brynzeel 4mm mahogany faced which would probably do. Possibly combine this with Roger's wash-board suggestion. Let me know asap.
Failing that you're looking at Robbins Super-Elite-Plus in 4mm. The bugbear is paying £25 carriage on a £80 purchase! Of course if you bought two sheets you could have a loverly new deck throughout!
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Post by pegasus on Mar 5, 2010 19:06:00 GMT
Thanks for the offer. Sadly I am awy this weekend. But I may have found a retired chippy whose work is exceptional and it will keep his mind busy. I have had emails etc from various people and it seems the best place to go to is Robins Timber. Ill see if I can get one of our work vehicles to pick up some ply from them and their next visit past. That will just leave the mess of the mast to deal with. But Hey-Ho one problem at a time. I might even get Bertie back on the water for the summer! Simon
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Post by BMBA Admin on Mar 10, 2010 15:47:52 GMT
There are a pile of masts in the long grass beside my berth at Frampton. Lost track of who's is what, but I think one of them might be a Needlespar that I swapped for a Superspars left over from when I replaced it on Altantic for another Needlespar which I subsequently broke in an enthusiastic gybe and then had replaced with a new Superspars courtesy of my insurance.
That didn't sound as complicated as it now looks before I started typing!
Long and short of it is that we may be able to sort you something out from Frampton. I'll have a word with the mob when I see them on Saturday and try and work out who's is what and what they might want for it!
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Post by New Boy on Mar 11, 2010 9:39:00 GMT
Bill Two off the masts there are mine and one is a brand new My from super Spars. The other may be up for grabs. New Boy
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Post by BMBA Admin on Mar 11, 2010 10:30:12 GMT
Heheh. Any takers for a brand new Super Spars going cheap!
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Post by pegasus on Mar 11, 2010 19:33:43 GMT
THings are starting to look up. If I can get a price then Very, very interested.
Pity I wont be able to finish the club winter series though! I have been trying to fly the flag for the Moths!
Simon
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Post by BMBA Admin on Mar 12, 2010 17:00:23 GMT
I think New Boy might actually cry if I flogged the (once) shiny Superspars he's littering up the side of my berth with. However, pretty certain we have a Needlespar lying in the same bush. I'll check this weekend and work out if it's available.
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Post by BMBA Admin on Mar 15, 2010 11:11:44 GMT
Simon, it does appear I've got a Needlespar that I could let you have for £50. Not sure how we'd get it to you though, Maidenhead SC being a couple of hours away from Frampton at a guess?
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