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Post by andrewpm on Jul 10, 2008 13:11:41 GMT
Hi Singlehander,
Old Grey Fox is probably right that the optimum weight range is between 10.5 and 13 stone.
However, there are a number of very competitive helms who cope well in all winds, who are significantly outside this range .
If you still have any concerns, try and get a go in a boat - are you anywhere near to an existing Moth club? I'm sure most Moth'ers would happily loan out their boat for a bit on the promise of a pint or two!.
Just like you I fancied a Moth when I was younger - Even bought a set of Moth plans in 1974 - Then it took me over 30 years to get first Moth.
Andrew P-M
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Post by New Boy on Jul 11, 2008 7:52:31 GMT
Singlehander Glad you have taken an interest in our quirky little boat. Don't tell anyone but i weigh 14.5 stone and it only seems to be my lack of sailing ability that keeps me from the front of the fleet. I would say a couple of the top 5 are over 14 stone but at the same time the rest of them are around 10.5 stone If you think you are a little light then jump in the lake before the races and if you think you are a little heavy eat less we are worth the effort! I started sailing Moths last March and really love that there is more to this class than just the race sailing. Weekends away and fun off the water too. We are a growing class but still small and friendly. If you are near Northampton, Pitsford res this weekend come along and say Hi. If you bring some kit you are welcome to try painted lady a National winning Moth. If you are nearer Frampton on severn you can try her there. There are some good Moths for sail now so it is a good time to buy! Hope to see you soon New Boy (817 Painted Lady)
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Post by New Boy on Jul 11, 2008 8:22:46 GMT
Hi all It would be great if we could complete the fleet info page with more of the sailors showing where they are sailing. I have just looked and I am sure a lot of names are missing. It would really help people like singlehander see where we sail and that we are an active class. This is our 1st point of contact with the outside world so we really should make the most of it and after all the hard work Bill has put in to the web site it would be a shame not too! If fleet captains could pass on names and boats it would be a great help. New Boy
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Post by Olly758 on Jul 11, 2008 18:03:11 GMT
I'm not the fleet captain at Desborough, but I will try and get DSC's details together.
Olly
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Post by singlehander on Jul 11, 2008 19:46:19 GMT
Hi, thanks for all the help and info. Crickey! What? 14Stone! Well, I am (just) the right side of that, but how do the big 'uns fit in the boat....? I take it (having looked at the class measurement rules), that the tolerances allowed are used by builders to try to produce a 'fast' shape. This is the case in most classes I've sailed - most aiming to 'flatten the curves', if so, could you say which builders produce the 'fast' hulls and if any are better suited to heavyweights? I also see that your association has arranged for a glass hull to be available, ready built for prospective buyers - what a great idea! For now, I've found a fellow club member who owns a very old, very 'unrigged' Brit Moth, who might be willing to let me rig her (I am a rigger) in exchange for letting me try her out (-thinks-there might be some beer involved here), however, I'll let you know how I get on, and thanks again for the info. Singlehander
PS I am currently based on the Crouch in Essex.
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Post by New Boy on Jul 11, 2008 21:16:15 GMT
Thank you Olly Have a good weekend New Boy
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Post by New Boy on Jul 11, 2008 21:24:52 GMT
Singlehander Will be great to hear how you get on. Just out of interest what number is the Moth you will be setting up and who owns it? As I said you are welcome to come and try mine at Northhampton this weekend or any future time you Fancy. After the Northampton event this weekend I will try to get the top five to post a list of boat makes equipment and sails used if this helps you. Have a good weekend New boy
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Post by BMBA Admin on Jul 11, 2008 23:05:20 GMT
I'm not the fleet captain at Desborough, but I will try and get DSC's details together. Thanks Olly, that would be terribly useful. The information on the current page was made up from what info I could glean from previous results and reports and the like. Any updates or corrections would be very much welcomed.
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Post by dtaylor on Jul 12, 2008 9:49:03 GMT
Bill, the Upton Warren Moths are 859 Jubilate (BMBA composite) David Taylor 800 Surface Tension (Skinner composite) Clive Crowther 681 Cobwebs (Wood) Keith Bond (for sale) 756 Oak Beauty (Plycraft wood) Imogen Taylor (for sale or p/ex for good GRP Moth) 829 (unnamed) ( Clark GRP) Vivian Brookes
Happy Data collecting! David
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Post by scruff871 on Jul 16, 2008 11:42:36 GMT
Singlehander Hows-about coming up to Hunts S.C.in August to say Hi ...? Most are friendly,especially when in the Bar !!!! RW
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Post by singlehander on Jul 16, 2008 18:29:56 GMT
Scruff871, thanks, yes, I will try to get to Hunts and have a look around, pick some brains etc. The Brit Moth I was looking at at my Club is number 563 (carved into the hog), and to be honest is a bit far gone, even though it seems to be built like the proverbial outhouse! I think I'll be looking for something closer to minimum weight (while I work on my own, personal, corrector weights/flab!) hope to see you at Hunts, thanks again.
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Post by New Boy on Jul 21, 2008 13:53:48 GMT
Not that many brains to pic be lots of nice people who will try to help. Hope to see you at Hunts New Boy
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Post by paultp on Jul 24, 2008 14:16:14 GMT
Hi all,
Not sure whether to start a new thread or just post here, so posted here.
I've had my moth (784) since about the mid 90's though I have only sailed once a year for the last 5 years. Last night I went up to do safety boat at my current club and so took this years look at my boat and found that a some of the fittings had been nicked.
Most are easily replaced but the bit I'm going to truggle with is the kicking strap. Due to my neglect of my moth I can't remember what it looked like or consisted of apart from a massive pulley system consisting of 2 triple blocks. This is the only bit left and I'm not surpised as I never really liked it.
So could anyone possibly help me put together a list of parts needed for a decent but simple kicking strap that doesn't require the brains of an archbishop to fit together or the help of three freinds to pull it tight.
I have a boom with a fitting I can clip onto and a mast fitting that has a short piece of wire with a ferrule on the end.
Oh yes and I'd like to do it this weekend or my interest will lapse again until my next safety boat duty.
Many thanks Paul
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Post by Same same on Jul 24, 2008 20:01:38 GMT
Paul, sorry to hear about your sad loss... In my opinion kicker arrangement should be replaced with a cascade system which is much more simple, less friction and easy to operate and adjust. Suggest 3 Ronstan 20mm single blocks, 1 Ronstan double block and good quality none stretch 5mm cord. Difficult to explain when a picture will tell all. Send an e-mail to rogerw@impcross.co.uk and we'll send you one Regards Roger
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Post by ianedwards on Jul 24, 2008 21:56:18 GMT
Paul Totally agree with Roger A simple cascade work well, provides the non friction easily adjusted option 16.1 easily achived. Convinced Rogers drawing will tell all although youy will find many chandlers offer the option in their catalogues Check Sailboats .co.uk page 51 Regards ian
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